If Mormons correctly understand their theology, Connor Boyack writes, they will “be proponents of the philosophy of liberty, or libertarians.” Boyack has given up on Republicans and Democrats as advocates of liberty and limited government, recognizing the former as big government proponents for central banking, deficit spending, economic and foreign intervention and the latter as only differing in the objects and uses for this bloated government. Only libertarianism, he argues, is consistent and principled in its defense of liberty as the highest political good.
In his debut book, Latter-day Liberty: A Gospel Approach to Government and Politics (Cedar Fort), Boyack dedicates the first half of his work to defining liberty and attempting a rational and theological foundation to make this liberty the end of Mormon politics. Let me first say that I agree with William F. Buckley’s sentiment that every conservative has a great deal of libertarianism in them. Conservatives and libertarians both cherish individual liberty and are dedicated to its protection. The very unique coalition that Buckley helped forge enlisted conservatives and libertarians in the same fight against advancing statism. That being said, libertarianism is crippled by blind spots that Boyack seems to fully embrace. I do not intend to here give a full critique of libertarianism or Latter-day Liberty. Instead, I’ve chosen to address what I see as the most fatal flaws in Boyack’s unique brand of Mormon libertarianism that is characterized by 1) a misreading of the war in heaven, 2) the related placement of a shallow sense of liberty as the highest political good, and 3) a radical fusion of theory and practice in relation to natural law that forces him to underestimate the goods at stake in the command given in the LDS Church’s 12th Article of Faith to sustain the laws of the land.
The War in Heaven
In a recent interview with JAC, Mormon scholar Terryl Givens said, in relation to the war in heaven, “If we’re going to make theology the basis of our political positions, we have to make sure we get our theology right.” As is the case at several junctures in Latter-day Liberty, Boyack’s reading into LDS principles distorts the potential applicable principle at hand. Boyack paints the caricature that Satan’s plan was essentially to turn the hosts of heaven into mindless drones who were forced to do what was right so that they might be saved. Christ, on the other hand, weighed in on the side of liberty. With this understanding, the war in heaven becomes a powerful lesson against coercion and force. We learn that the ultimate being of the cosmos, God Almighty, is pro-choice on the weightiest issue imaginable, the eternal salvation of His children. If God would rather lose a substantial portion of His children than force them to be good, surely our governments should allow even great amounts of license for the sake of liberty. So Boyack’s argument goes.
The main problem with this formulation is that it is a misreading from the beginning. Nowhere in scripture do we read that Satan planned to coerce or force God’s children into obedience. Scripture only states that he sought to “destroy the agency of man.” Surely, forcing individuals to do what is right is one way to destroy this agency, but, as Givens points out, this is a “rather brute and certainly not the most sophisticated or effective way to deny people their agency.” Willfully submitting to such extreme coercion is inimical to man’s nature, and libertarians, perhaps more than all others, should know that such a strategy is doubtful to have been appealing to a third of the host of heaven. The natural man, in his most debased form, rather is drawn by the doctrine of Nehor that “all mankind should be saved at the last day,” regardless of covenants or living up to any other standard of righteousness. The natural man wants to stay up all night drinking, partying and having sex and then wake up the next morning refreshed, free of hangover or any risk of child or STD. Eat, drink and be merry and nevertheless be saved in the kingdom of our God. In short, he wants to divorce choices from consequences. He wants to indulge his basest passions without ever having to face the consequences. He wants wickedness to be happiness.
Ironically then, Satan’s plan sought to deny man his agency by giving him exactly what he wanted: to choose a life of wickedness and nevertheless be happy in the kingdom of God. He sought to destroy agency by refusing to respect the natural tie linking choices and consequences. While it is impossible to know with certainty the exact plan of Satan’s destruction, this seems at once more enticing to man’s nature and more in line with the Satanic strategy deployed by the anti-Christs of the Book of Mormon. Couple this with the knowledge that Satan’s “plan” was never a plan in the sense that it would have been enacted had the votes lined up differently, and we reach a much different reading of the political principles at stake in the war in heaven. Instead of revealing a libertarian God, it reveals a God who respects man’s agency by refusing to divorce choices from their consequences. Where the former reading of the war in heaven might lend one to see unilateral divorce as the government’s respecting the choice of an unhappy spouse to back out of a marriage, the latter reading helps us realize that marriage is a most sacred contract that cannot be broken by one party except in the most serious circumstances such as infidelity or abuse.
Liberty as the Highest Political End
“If Mormons are to be supporters of the cause of liberty,” Boyack writes, “the argument then follows that they should be libertarian.” If it sounds like Boyack is drawing a hard line that’s because he is. According to him, conservatives and liberals have given up on liberty and are more interested in furthering their own power. While they might trot out the word “liberty” during campaigns, at the end of the day, they are all its enemies, even if they attack from different angles.
Boyack bombards the reader with a litany of quotes from philosophers and church leadership to show that liberty is the chief political good. While conservatives might be inclined to agree with Boyack on this point, it soon becomes apparent that he does not use the word the way the American Founders did. For the Founders, as Matthew Spalding writes, liberty was “the rightful exercise of freedom, the balancing of rights and responsibilities.”
The Founders did not use the words “liberty” and “freedom” synonymously. While all animals can be considered to have freedom, true liberty is reserved for human beings who are able to deliberate upon and act in accordance with moral truths and responsibilities. In other words, they are able to act with relation to higher ends. Boyack, on the other hand, renders the far less rich definition that liberty is simply “unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others.” Liberty, then, is the right to act as one chooses as long as one does not harm others or their rights. Liberty is defined in purely negative terms and is void of any moral meaning. For LDS who have recently been reminded by its leaders that “free agency” properly understood is scripturally “moral agency,” this is surely problematic.
But, perhaps this is already too abstract. The shortcomings of Boyack’s approach are obvious from the commonsensical wisdom that future freedom is dependent on the merit of previous decisions. Consider the familiar story from the LDS Church’s Gospel Principles manual in which a couple is walking along the beach and sees a sign that says “Danger—whirlpool. No swimming allowed here.” At that point the couple could make many choices.
We might think [the sign’s prohibition] is a restriction. But is it? We still have many choices. We are free to swim somewhere else. We are free to walk along the beach and pick up seashells. We are free to watch the sunset. We are free to go home. We are also free to ignore the sign and swim in the dangerous place. But once the whirlpool has us in its grasp and we are pulled under, we have very few choices. We can try to escape, or we can call for help, but we may drown.
As it is in the private sphere, so it is in the public. Aristotle wrote that unrestrained or unguided freedom cannot preserve liberty. Surely libertarians (but not only them) concerned with mounting debt can see how previous choices limit our future choices and even the choices of others. The question then is what government is to do about this truth. Is it to operate as if all choices were equal, acting as if it did not have to bear the consequences of license? This is a large question, and I do not pretend to offer a more finely tuned republican formula that better situates our regime between licentiousness and torpor than the one the Founders gave us. We must remember, however, that it is the basic problem of government to maintain rule of law (order) without devolving into tyranny and maintain the maximum amount of freedom without crossing into license, which creates its own — perhaps more subtle — form of tyranny. Having just escaped the grasp of despotism, the genius of the Founders is that they insisted not on the other extreme but on situating government at the proper mean between liberty, tyranny, torpor and license. They knew it was not enough to think of freedom in the short-term. Those who truly love liberty will likewise take actions that sustain and strengthen liberty, not merely exercise it.
Aristotle taught that it is impossible to separate the purpose of the individual life from the ends of the regime. In the most general terms, Aristotle wrote, individuals want to be happy. He was not speaking of the kind of thrift store happiness that is so often trumpeted today where everyone wishes not only to make their own choices but to also choose their consequences. It was a happiness that was directly related to how well individuals used their freedom. As individual happiness is irrevocably tied to an individual’s virtue, so we would be naive to think that the happiness or well-being of the political community was not also the end of politics.
This may seem like a departure from the Founding’s liberal roots, but I believe this reaction is largely due to a misreading of the Founders. In Federalist No. 14 James Madison writes that the American experiment is about obtaining “private rights and public happiness,” as if indicating that private rights were the key contributor to public happiness. Later, however, in Federalist No. 45, Madison argues that the public good, or public happiness, “is the supreme object to be pursued; and that no form of government whatever has any other value than as it may be fitted for the attainment of this object.” Madison made this argument as part of his larger point that it was the Constitution that established the government that would best facilitate and secure the conditions of (not provide) this happiness. How could it be otherwise, recognizing, as Madison would write, that good government is simply “the greatest of all reflections on human nature?”
Some contemporary Americans may be uncomfortable making happiness the highest end of politics rather than freedom. They fear that one version of happiness would be imposed upon them at the expense of their liberty and their happiness. This is a legitimate concern and one of which Madison and the Founders were also aware. But, isn’t it also a threat to liberty to pretend that license does not bear consequences that enslave and degrade man? Again, I do not claim to have the perfect formula that calculates the precise meeting spot of free actions and virtue, but I know enough to be certain that it is unwise to pretend that their proper balance is not a requisite for a prospering political community. It would seem then to be the duty of every responsible citizen to use liberalism’s institutions to strengthen virtuous causes and, in turn, strengthen liberty and provide the conditions for man’s happiness. In short, it is the duty of far-sighted Americans to not only preach the gospel of liberty but to preach the gospel of liberty well understood, or, that is to say, a sustaining, nourishing and virtuous liberty that will foster instead of decay man’s freedoms.
In Boyack’s parade of quotes showing that liberty should be the highest end of LDS politics, he includes a quote in which Elder Charles Didier says “Our most important need as defenders of liberty is to know what true liberty is, to teach it, to profess it, and to testify of it.” Perhaps it is ironic that this quote is lifted from a talk that argues that LDS should fight against “pornography or obscenity in bookstores, on television or radio, or in places of entertainment” as well as against “those who would make more easily available to the young and inexperienced alcohol and its attendant evils, including drunken driving, highway fatalities, broken homes” and other “laws which violate the commandments of God.” Didier also includes this following quote from President N. Eldon Tanner: “People who argue that they have constitutional rights and want to use what they call their free agency to accomplish unrighteous ends abuse the idea of free agency and deprive others of their constitutional rights.”
Reading the entirety of the address, it becomes clear that Didier is not arguing for Boyack’s libertarian ideal. Rather, he is making the argument that such a short-sighted definition fails to “know what true liberty is.”
Natural Law and the Fusion of Theory and Practice
Boyack gives his reader a primer on natural law theory, pointing to sources such as Cicero, Locke and the Founders. “Natural law theory holds that there already exists a set of laws which we should both understand and obey, and which should serve as the basis of government. … Natural laws have an inherent supremacy clause to morally invalidate and delegitimize any conflicting man-made law.”
Fair enough. Boyack goes on to argue that “an advocate of natural law points either upward to God or inward to his own humanity for moral authority” while advocates for positive laws (laws by man) must back these by force. Perhaps it is too easy a point to call attention to the fact that natural law must also be reinforced by man-made laws and institutions even if their moral authority exists outside these constructs. It is not clear, however, that Boyack has given this most basic point consideration. While these laws are found in nature, they are weak without government, and, yes, government’s force. Consider the government’s protection of property. Yes, it is an essential natural right, but at the end of the day it is protected at the barrel of the gun. It is absurd, therefore, to judge the merits of governments or their laws by whether they are backed by force. The better measuring stick is whether it protects man’s liberties, is based on the consent of the governed, and contributes to the public good.
Boyack’s more dangerous point, however, is that LDS should use the principle of nullification to resist laws that violate “the true, supreme, constitutional law of the land.” Boyack recognizes that such a teaching risks violating the 12th Article of Faith, which teaches “We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.” Boyack insists, however, that nullification is different than civil disobedience because it does not preach the violation of the law but the sustaining of the higher law. Of course, Boyack is forced to make this distinction because the Brethren were unequivocal in their denunciation of civil disobedience. President James E. Faust taught, “Even when causes are meritorious, if civil disobedience were to be practiced by everyone with a cause our democracy would unravel and be destroyed. Civil disobedience is an abuse of political process in a democracy.”
To believe there is a substantive difference between the civil disobedience Faust was referring to with the Civil Rights Movement and the kind of nullification Boyack is preaching, one would have to accept that blacks in the 1960s had no basis for equal protection under the Constitution, or natural law.
While it is true that positive laws that violate natural and constitutional law lack moral authority, this does not mean we should, or that it is wise to, break these laws. Boyack does his readers a service in bringing to light excerpts from early Church leaders such as Joseph Smith, John Taylor and Wilford Woodruff suggesting that LDS are not bound by unconstitutional laws and even have the duty to resist them. I fear, however, that Boyack oversimplifies the complexity of the factors that go into the decision of whether Saints should be in the business of violating the laws of the land. Even more, he suggests that LDS have the duty to resist such laws, saying “To comply with [governments’] mandates on issues for which they have not been delegated authority is to justify those and yet additional abuses that will surely follow.”
Using the example of abortion, President Faust taught that “even though we disagreed with the law … we are still obliged to recognize the law of the land until it is changed. … Rather than resort to civil disobedience or violence, we are obliged to exercise our right to seek its repeal or change by peaceful and lawful means.” The abortion example should be illustrative for Mormons, who believe abortion is the taking of an innocent life (murder or something like unto it). If ever there were an issue that required the saints to nullify the law of the land, wouldn’t this be it? For those who believe that the embryo and fetus form just as an important part of the species homo sapien as anyone of its post-birth canal counterparts, abortion tears at the heart of the principles of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States.
In 1937, President Heber J. Grant went to Nazi Germany and counseled the Saints to not cause trouble with the Nazis. Why would he do this in the face of such atrocities? We cannot be absolutely sure, but there appear to be many more considerations involved than whether natural law or constitutional principles are being violated. Such considerations very well may have included the implications of such disobedience on those violating the law and their families, long-term impact on the Church, effects on the political regime, etc. The list goes on, and we cannot always see why the Lord’s anointed give the counsel they do. But, perhaps this is why they are given. Where there are not hard and fast rules discernible by reason to let us know when we might break the laws of the land, I think it prudent to follow Elders James E. Talmage and Bruce R. McConkie in recognizing that while there are situations where we might be morally justified to do so, “there is no sure way of knowing the course we should pursue in each instance except by revelation.”
Like so many libertarians, Boyack is a valuable advocate for getting the most burdensome aspects of government off our backs. I have no doubts that he is sincere in his love of liberty, but I wonder whether his libertarianism has blinded him from a richer liberty that is often present in the very LDS sources he marshals for his cause. Boyack loves freedom, but his liberty risks being, at its core, an amoral one that is left without direction or purpose. Freedom, yes, but not the moral agency fought for in the war in heaven or one capable of facilitating man’s happiness. As much as conservatives and libertarians disdain government largesse, they must not run to the opposite extreme but recognize the indispensable role limited government plays in creating the conditions of happiness. Liberty’s perpetuation and flourishing will always be contingent upon a public sphere that does not ridicule virtue but instead sustains institutions such as churches and families where individuals learn to use their agency toward their own happiness and that of the republic. Only with these things secure will we reap the blessings of true liberty.




Thank you!!! I have read Boyack’s posts on Facebook and have been trying to figure out why I dislike most of his theories, even though I think he is a very strong and valuable advocate of less government. Very well said. Ironically I found your post through one of his FB wall posts….
Well articulated…and much too polite. :)
I agree with Adam. Growing up in Idaho I have had many friends and acquaintances that have agreed with and taken on Boyack’s theories and I never could adequately nail down why I disliked them until I read this article and the light bulb came on in my head. Also I loved this thought:
“Where there are not hard and fast rules discernible by reason to let us know when we might break the laws of the land, I think it prudent to follow Elders James E. Talmage and Bruce R. McConkie in recognizing that while there are situations where we might be morally justified to do so, “there is no sure way of knowing the course we should pursue in each instance except by revelation.”
This reminded me of the rich history that corresponded with Mormon polygamy and the navigation of Mormons through the governmental conflicts of the late 19th century. The trajectory of this history indicates this principle very well.
author says… “Perhaps it is too easy a point to call attention to the fact that natural law must also be reinforced by man-made laws and institutions even if their moral authority exists outside these constructs” and then you give an example of using government force to protect one’s own property…HELLO this is a libertarian view! I’m sure Connor would agree with me, that government force, as well as individual force is OK and justified in order to defend one’s own liberty or property. I’m not sure why you are calling Connor out on this, as your argument conicides with a libertarian’s view on force when it comes to protecting life, liberty, and property. Force and coercion are only immoral when a individual is DIRECTLY harming or using aggression against someone else’s life or property.
You are vague when you bring up the reasons for or against legislating morality. If you were to argue for laws forbidding adultery, as a religious man you would have a pretty good argument, as God himself said, ‘thou shall not commit adultery’. BUT if you were to argue for laws forbidding the use of alcohol or drugs, you would have no argument as a religious man, as God does not, and never has given temporal commandments forbidding the peaceful use of any substance. Please be more specific with what moral laws you would justify and please give scriptural support for instituting these laws.
Your argument against Connor is vague at best and full of holes.
one correction on my last post…. I said “Force and coercion are only immoral when a individual is DIRECTLY harming or using aggression against someone else’s life or property.”
I meant to say… “Force and coercion are only MORAL or justified when a individual is DIRECTLY harming or using aggression against someone else’s life or property.”
I enjoyed your review, it seems healthy to try and understand another point of view.
Not trying to be heavy-handed, I sensed there were a few straw-man arguments that stood out to me as I was reading it. I’d be curious if you could expound on them, as I sense there may be something deeper you’re getting at, and maybe I’m just not getting it.
== While these laws are found in nature, they are weak without government, and, yes, government’s force. Consider the government’s protection of property. Yes, it is an essential natural right, but at the end of the day it is protected at the barrel of the gun.
This arguments communicates that you derived from Connor’s book that he’s advocating Anarchy. I get a different impression: that the use of force is justified by the government when an individual initiates the use of force on another to deprive the other of their rights. I see no argument here.
== Boyack loves freedom, but his liberty risks being, at its core, an amoral one that is left without direction or purpose.
How do you support this claim? It seems that freedom enable us to have direction and purpose as our conscience dictates, to live and let live as stated in AoF 11: “We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.” Would you suggest that we should initiate force to give others a sense of purpose?
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Peace and blessings.
Thank you everyone for your thoughts. It seems my comment that Boyack overlooks that natural laws must be reinforced by man-made laws got me into some trouble. As for government protection of property, I don’t think libertarians have a monopoly on that position. That is a pretty basic liberal (think John Locke and the Founders) argument.
Chris, I don’t doubt that Boyack supports government’s use of force to protect natural rights. I thought I brought this out by recognizing that his definition of liberty implied that government would not allow things that harmed others or their rights. In this passage you critique from my review, I was only referring to a particular passage in Boyack’s book. Here it is in full:
“Whereas an advocate of natural law points either upward to God or inward to his own humanity for moral authority, an opposing advocate points to his weapon.” To Tim, I wasn’t trying to say that Boyack was an anarchist, though I can see how you might have thought that if reading this passage from the review in isolation. When I read this excerpt from the book, I thought that Boyack was hearkening to the libertarian sentiment that government is enforced at the barrel of the gun, and if you have to use force to get people to do something, that is coercive and immoral. I’ve always thought this was an incoherent argument, and, yes, even irreconcilable with the government libertarians do support. I thought Boyack was trying to appeal to people’s resentment for being told what to do and having these laws/commands being backed by force. I will admit it would have been more clear if I would have spelled out in this paragraph that he supported some government, but I thought that I made that clear at the beginning. In all of my arguments, I wasn’t arguing against an anarchist but a libertarian. This is why I made virtue a key part of my critique. I must say though that it’s curious that two comments go after me for something as peripheral as this passage.
Also to Tim: Boyack’s amoral liberty was the theme of the entire second section. I encourage you to revisit that.
As for what morals laws I would support and what backing I would give, I alluded to at least one in that I am emphatically against unilateral divorce. Another would be upholding marriage being between a man and a woman. The Family Proclamation and the Church’s efforts with Prop 8 show that the Church shares my concern in these matters. In the review, I made the comment that “It would seem then to be the duty of every responsible citizen to use liberalism’s institutions to strengthen virtuous causes and, in turn, strengthen liberty and provide the conditions for man’s happiness.” By this I mean that when marriage initiatives appear on the ballot, citizens should use their best arguments to uphold marriage.
I won’t give a list of morals laws I’d like to see passed. I’ve given some examples, and I don’t think it’s helpful to dwell too much on what laws one would implement if political realities were completely different. Part of statesmanship is recognizing the space between theory and practice and the role of prudence in moving the political community closer to the ideal. These judgments will always depend on the state of the regime and the citizens.
If this doesn’t satisfy you, I encourage you to stay tuned to the second half of my review where things will necessarily be less theoretical and “vague.”
– Brandon
In full disclosure, I haven’t finished the book yet, but my reading of the beginning doesn’t say to abandon the two parties, in fact, he clearly differentiates between the small l libertarian, and a member of The Libertarian Party.
Second, I used to agree with your version of the war in heaven, but if you study the words of the prophets you can find multiple examples of prophets saying that Satan’s plan was to force us into obedience.
Brett, From my review, which quotes Boyack: “If Mormons are to be supporters of the cause of liberty,” Boyack writes, “the argument then follows that they should be libertarian.” I didn’t make the argument that Boyack says Mormons should vote for the Libertarian Party. I only used small-L libertarian in this review, and I don’t believe I said he counseled that all Mormons abandon the two major parties. I’ve heard interviews where Boyack says that libertarians are in both the Democratic and Republican parties, but his book makes it clear that he has given up on either one as a vehicle of liberty and libertarianism. I don’t think he would argue that point. As to your comment on the war in heaven, I only ask you to engage the argument.
LIbertarianism’s main appeal is NOT support for more liberty. Libertarianism allows it adherents to determine their positions without having to thoroughly analyze and evaluate the benefits, costs, or options of public policy proposals. With Libertarianism, the thinking has been done. It’s actually a very convenient religion. It’s much easier to spout bumper sticker “solutions” than it is to develop, promote, implement, and execute real solutions.
For example, should we support vouchers, refundable tuition tax credits and/or charter schools and if yes, what should be the specific parameters of these programs? Libertarian answer: oppose all of these no matter how well they are designed because they are still socialist programs because taxpayers are compelled to support others who use charter schools, vouchers and refundable tax credits. True liberty would require abolishing all public schools (and the taxes that support them) and end compulsory education. Vouchers and charter schools would still be viewed and opposed as government programs because they are taxpayer supported.
Libertarian “solutions” are usually simplistic and and are therefore not taken seriously, like Ron Paul’s proposal to abolish five federal agencies to balance the budget. Not only does no one take Paul’s proposal seriously, it doesn’t even solve the problem in the long run since entitlements like Medicare and Social Security are the main problems, not the Departments of Commerce and Energy.
Libertarianism negatively impacts the promotion of smaller government because it opposes realistic conservative solutions while promoting unattainable purist solutions. I cite the following two examples
1. The Libertarian “solution” to solving Social Security is to oppose realistic proposals to reform this popular program — like progressive price indexing, increasing normal retirement age and means testing — while advocating for abolition of Social Security altogether. The most Libertarianism can achieve is to derail realistic yet effective conservative solutions and allow the Left to achieve its goals. A more powerful Libertarian movement means we will achieve neither abolition nor meaningful reform of Social Security but rather higher taxes and insolvency.
2. As noted previously, the LIbertarian “solution” to reforming public education is to get rid of it. Libertarians are completely oblivious to how popular taxpayer funding of K-12 education really is. So, while they oppose meaningful proposals like vouchers and charter schools to improve taxpayer funded education, we end up paying higher taxes to fund the unreformed status quo.
Derailing legitimate yet insufficiently pure solutions is, however, not Libertarianism’s biggest shortcoming. Libertarianism’s militant pacificism is a serious pathology that endangers our national security. Libertarianism, especially as espoused by Ron Paul and his deluded followers, naively refuses to acknowledge that there are dangerous actors in the world that we need to defeat. Paul’s assertions that our enemies would leave us alone if we would just leave them alone ignores the realities of human history Paul’s pacificism has gained popularity due to Republican overreach on national security when the U.S. foolishly invaded and conquered Iraq. While the Iraq War was clearly a mistake, overreaction in the other direction is at least equally dangerous.
Ultimately, LIbertarians are less interested in achieving meaningful reforms and are more interested in advocating for policies they’ll never have to worry about implementing or being held accountable for.
Very enlightening Brandon. I think the core issue with Libertarian ideals is that, as you put it, it acts, “as if it did not have to bear the consequences of license.” Though I find much good in libertarian thought, I also find naive gaps in the philosophy. Can’t wait for part 2!
I appreciate the authors clear and succinct prose and his respectful tone. As a political novice I rarely can put my finger on why something doesn’t feel right or seem complete and I appreciate reason-based opposing arguments like this put forth by the author to help me clarify my thinking and more wisely choose sides. I look forward to reading part 2-
There has always been, it seems to me, a contention between the two positions taken (by the author of the book, and the author of the article). I leant more toward the latter once upon a time, but after a lot of reading, research, pondering and prayer, I am now much more entrenched in the libertarian position. One of the turning points for me was reading Gordon B. Hinckley’s response to Mark Skousen’s Persuasion vs. Force written in the early 90s. We sometimes assume a moral stance by the Church means that they would support laws forcing such behaviour. Although the Lord could enforce anything He wanted to (as Connor points out in the idea of divine positivism), it is not in the economy of the Lord to generally do so. We need to understand the context as well as the so-called Samuel Principle (see Ensign, Feb 1991) to understand our world and how these things are truly applicable. For example, the government is involved in marriage therefore the Church defended the position of keeping marriage defined as between a man and woman because otherwise the rights of the officers of the Church would be threatened. This does not mean the Church would support laws to have government dictate marriage. Marriage, like baptism, is a religious ceremony, and a contract. It is not political.
I’d also take issue with the poster above who spoke of libertarianism as somehow easy, requiring no thought. This is simply not true. In fact the opposite is true. To the extent that governments are not limited, they sap the initiative of the people. It is maximum liberty that puts the burden on the people of accountability. Another point about libertarianism is that it is foundational in nature. It facilitates free associations to better society, and also allows for communities and non-central local governments to be shaped according to the mutual consent of those that opt into it. It respects agency in all, while allowing all people to live by the “higher laws” of their choosing. It is, or at least allows for, the perfect law of liberty. No other concept does this.
I gave Darren Andrews two examples (education and Social Secuirity) of libertarianism not requiring a lot of thought. Even though Darren didn’t give any evidence to refute my points (except a strawman argument that individuals have more personal accountability in a libertarian system which is completely different than my claim of libertarianism not requiring a lot of thought when formulating and defending public policy positions), I’ll give him some more.
Example 3: Taxes
What should the tax system look like? What exemptions, exclusions, deductions, and credits should we keep: R&D tax credit, child tax credit, MID, charitable? Should costs be expensed or should they be depreciated? Should depreciation be straight line or accelerated? Should some costs be expensed and others be depreciated? Should the tax system promote production, consumption, or be totally neutral? Should we have tax brackets and phased out tax credits to promote progressivity? What about taxing businesses? Should we tax C corporations differently than S corporations? What about promoting home ownership with targeted credits instead of MID?
Libertarian answer: flat tax. period.
Example 4: poverty programs
What should the safety net look like? Should we focus primarily on education, hoping a well-educated society will be able to take care of itself (of course this education system would not be funded by taxes because that would be require compulsion)? What about housing? Health care? Those with disabilities? Children? Elderly?
Answer: no safety net. Everyone is on his own or must rely on charity of others.
Example 5: what should our immigration policy look like?
Should we worry about wage suppression and unemployment? Should we make a distinction between high skilled and low skilled immigrants? What about the impact on demand on government services (like K-12 education) from low skilled immigrants who pay little in taxes? Should there be numeric limits on green cards and if yes what should they be? How should green cards be allocated?
Answer: no restrictions. Open borders. If American workers can’t compete against low-wage workers, too bad.
Again, none of these positions requires much thought. Just claims of “maximum liberty”.
We could go on, but the point is clear. Formulating and defending libertarian positions based on tangible economic outcomes requires no thought since libertarians don’t worry about outcomes. You just have to scream “maximum liberty” and everything just takes care of itself..
Paula, your arguments seem to suggest that there is some innate value in complexity. Sometimes the best answers are the simplest of ones; this is especially true when engineering systems.
Tim, I never suggested the presence of complexity is proof or validation of value nor did I suggest that complexity is a goal. I’m arguing that politically viable solutions that have positive economic outcomes are usually not as simplistic as libertarians believe. To demonstrate that point, I cited five specific examples.
Minimizing complexity of solutions is imperative. Eliminating all complexity is frequently not possible, especially if we are trying actually get something enacted that achieves positive economic outcomes.
To demonstrate this point, I’ll, naturally, cite some examples.
1. Most people would consider software with millions of lines of code to be complex, but no one intentionally designs code with the intent of making it complex. Code is written to fulfill market demands, but in order to do that, the code ends up being complex even though that’s not the goal.
2. Car engines are clearly more complex today than they were 80 year ago. This complexity has lead to increased performance and reliability. Increased complexity was not the car industry’s goal, but to achieve what the market wanted, that’s what we got. Clearly, if given the choice, consumers would prefer today’s complex engines over yesterday’s comparatively simpler engines (btw, when I say engines, I’m including all the controls, computers, etc not just the pistons, cylinders etc.)
Clearly, public policy solutions are sometimes very simple just like some engineering solutions are very simple, but areas like taxation, immigration, education, retirement are inherently complex and the solutions are usually not simple. Complexity is not the goal, but some complexity is frequently needed, especially when we are trying to balance the needs, wants, values, goals of 310 million people working in a global market with billions of people..
Going back to taxes, the current tax code is too complex. Even CPAs who financially benefit from a complex tax code admit that. However, reducing complexity cannot be the ONLY consideration when reforming tax code. Competitive neutrality, fairness (however that’s defined), economic growth (promotion of investment, production, exports, productivity), transparency, multiple political considerations (progressivity, impact of changes on various groups of taxpayers), etc must also be considered, and that INHERENTLY adds SOME complexity.
Two things stand out to me from this post:
“As individual happiness is irrevocably tied to an individual’s virtue, so we would be naive to think that the happiness or well-being of the political community was not also the end of politics.”
“Liberty’s perpetuation and flourishing will always be contingent upon a public sphere that does not ridicule virtue but instead sustains institutions such as churches and families where individuals learn to use their agency toward their own happiness and that of the republic. Only with these things secure will we reap the blessings of true liberty.”
I would be interested in exploring definitions of virtue as well, specifically, the differences and similarities between Aristotelian and Christian virtue. Why was there a war in heaven? Why does that war continue? Because moral agency was, still is, and will always be a divine gift worth fighting for. It cost the life and blood of Heavenly Father’s Only Begotten Son, and the lives of untold numbers before us, including those who fought in the Revolutionary War. The restoration of the Gospel of Jesus Christ eventually cost the best blood of the nineteenth century, namely that of the prophet Joseph Smith and his brother Hyrum.
I look forward to the second part of the series.
Paula,
True, sometimes complexity is warranted and preferred (consider the human body, although many of processes that occur in the human body are incredibly simple and genius when understood). I was alluding to the phenomenon that occurs when you are misaligned with or are ignorant to basic design principles, that complexity tends to explode. Whenever I design a system, reducing complexity is a primary goal because it directly influences my ability to support the changing needs and requirements thrown at the system without it melting down into a tar of defects. Often times I have to revisit pieces of the system and rework them in order to make the system manageable. The ideal is to reduce the amount of code required to achieve a minimum viable product. I’m sure we agree that complexity most always comes at a cost.
I think one component of the libertarian approach to government embraces the idea that each time you ignore and violate a natural right, you open the floodgate to complexity in which you then need to chisel away at the other consequences with additional laws, each one having additional consequences (foreseen or not) of their own. Take for example any social program, which at its core is empowered by taking resources from one group of people (ultimately through force) and making available to another. Now you’ve created an immigration problem because immigrants will want to flood to the US and participate in the social program, creating a drain on it. How do you control that? Stricter immigration laws. Then, how do you tell who is an immigrant, and who is not? Strict ID programs. Prevent employers from hiring immigrants. Now you’ve increased the cost of hiring by forcing all employers to do a background check on their employees to ensure they are a citizen… and so forth (granted, this is a small amount, but my point here is that lots of these small regulations, derived from other consequences, add up).
Another angle, say we decide to delegate all charity to the government (we seem to be slowly moving in that direction, sadly). When a person has their property taken by force, it’s an unpleasant, unrewarding experience. In many cases, it makes them feel violated, bitter, and discontent. On the flip side, there is data to suggest that private charitable giving increases mental health and individual prosperity (see Arthur C. Brooks: “Why Giving Matters”, http://magazine.byu.edu/?act=view&a=2441). As wealth is destroyed by an expanding government, people are less likely to be charitable, causing more to rely on the government, and so forth. A reinforcing cycle grows.
The argument pivots then, it seems, at whether a group believes it is more problematic or beneficial to say “No” or “Yes” to individual rights. I think libertarians tend to agree that it’s more problematic to say “No”, and more beneficial to say “Yes”. (and I tend to agree).
Although.. I’d also follow the council of Ezra Taft Benson when he said this:
“Obviously, not all welfare-state programs currently in force can be dropped simultaneously without causing tremendous economic and social upheaval. To try to do so would be like finding oneself at the controls of a hijacked airplane and attempting to return it by simply cutting off the engines in flight. It must be flown back, lowered in altitude, gradually reduced in speed and brought in for a smooth landing. Translated into practical terms, this means that the first step toward restoring the limited concept of government should be to freeze all welfare-state programs at their present level, making sure that no new ones are added. The next step would be to allow all present programs to run out their term with absolutely no renewal. The third step would involve the gradual phasing-out of those programs which are indefinite in their term. In my opinion, the bulk of the transition could be accomplished within a ten-year period and virtually completed within twenty years. Congress would serve as the initiator of this phase-out program, and the President would act as the executive in accordance with traditional constitutional procedures.” – The Proper Role of Government, http://www.latterdayconservative.com/ezra-taft-benson/the-proper-role-of-government/
Your Benson quote demonstrates the point I’ve been making all along which is that libertarians do not propose realistic solutions. First, 99% of Americans really don’t really care what Benson thinks so citing him demonstrates the lack of realism that I’ve been talking about.
More importantly, Benson’s proposal to gradually but completely eliminate the welfare state within 20 years is a complete fantasy, especially if you include Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, public education, public universities, WIC, TANF, and so on. Scaling these programs back is one thing, but completely eliminating them all, even if gradually, will never happen. If the Left screams “more welfare” and the Right screams “no welfare twenty years from now”, then we end up with more welfare because a vast majority of Americans support some sort of safety net. Realistically, the issue is not whether we will have a welfare state or not in 20 years but rather how much of a welfare state. Libertarians still haven’t figured out this simple truth yet. That’s why they keep losing decade after decade.
A classic example would be public education. The Left screams “property fund education”. Mainline conservatives argue for charter schools and vouchers (both of which are socialistic, rely on compulsion and are therefore opposed by Libertarians). Conservatives are generally huge supporters of using more technology in instruction. A slight but growing majority of Americans understand the benefits of choice and competition through charters and vouchers and/or increased productivity through technology. However, an even larger majority of Americans will reject the libertarian/Benson proposal to eliminate public education in 20 years. So given the Left’s choice and Benson’s proposal, the Left will win easily.
Just curious: you guys realize that Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged is fiction, right? Just checking.
Well, Paula, been nice chatting. Have fun paddling the canoe down the same old river.
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